is surrender and understanding – same thing ?

First Re-Write the Question to understand the question well:


ac•cep•tance (k-sptns)
1. The act or process of accepting.
2. The state of being accepted or acceptable.
3. Favorable reception; approval.
4. Belief in something; agreement.

sur•ren•der (s-rndr)
v. sur•ren•dered, sur•ren•der•ing, sur•ren•ders
1. To relinquish possession or control of to another because of demand or compulsion.
2. To give up in favor of another.
3. To give up or give back (something that has been granted): surrender a contractual right.
4. To give up or abandon: surrender all hope.
5. To give over or resign (oneself) to something, as to

is surrender and understanding – same thing ?


First the question seems to be either incomplete. Assuming that the understanding referred is contextually assumed as the understandings of the pre- surrender, then i think understanding is a subset/precede of the story/event of the happening “Surrender”

In reference to what one of the member expressed: I believe that there are two states of the mind that it can process. Physical and its own state, that is Mind. I often wonder how the brain effect ie Mind produces its aliases which are so distinct to the majorities that it is intellectual and emotional, however is it as “Mythologicaly” Shiva and shakthi (duality) or the Masculine and the feminine, having said this, based on this attributes, i can classify anything into this category, hence the understanding is an process of the intellectual property and its output rather given to radiate its impact, or its Subjective-objective oriented effects are been executed by the emotional OS of a person ( Every person is emotionally driven, and has a purposes of that one is aware within the limits of introspection or not).
After this complicated explanation though, these are nothing but the brain effects, called as illusion, and this what Ramana, said it quite well, Who the fuck am i?
Sorry for my abusive words, but if you feel what i feel, im sure, you will not be surprised to say so.

Part B
objective – At the time of Thinking.
Purpose – At the time of Acting.

Based on the Objective and the purpose, the appropriate, ways of assimilation is derived.

Of which it could be devotion, peace or anything for that matter.

This Task, has a methodology, and Techniques.
Methodology: is like a framework.
Technique: is the usage of tools or resources.
Now to manifest the objective, a person can adapt to or keep adopting on the fly until the task is achieved.

so for all this, there is a definite amount of Knowledge required. Hence i would like to share a quote that i once wrote, “It needs Wisdom to understand Wisdom” , that means, if i don’t have the understanding of the Godness or Goodness, how would i ever know about salvation, peace or liberation?

It is as rational as this: If you were never born, then there is no question of achieving or loosing anything.
The same way, if there is no exposure to the human life, then there is nothing about the humans to be talked about, like god (which is only permissible in human domain), and not acknowledge in any other domain.

Hence Understanding is a must, for Surrenderence.

Part C

is not that -understand Maya and surrender to The SOURCE ?


> How different is it from the “Maya” that you are referring to is different to “Source” ?

> Lets is assume that the statement was right.
“I understand the maya, and surrender to the Source”

Kindly look into how the chain reaction is “I”
in that statement, you will see ( I > Maya > Surrender > Source )
If there was no “I” the way it believes to be, that is being Human, then there is no Maya, and then no issue of Surrender to anyone, and hence No Source.
Now If I am that?
If i am the Creator, then i know or dont know the maya, and i know or dont know about surrender or i know or dont know about the Source. as these knowing is not at all a question probably at that time, as i dont know what i was doing. for example: do you think or see what a red blood cell Id no: 194y343734jf8439 is doing in your body? Can you see it? or feel it ? DAM NO!.🙂
Now Ask how different is (1) different from (2)?

Well, If i understood Maya alone, i really wonder how can any one trust anything at all? will that person not be in a perpetual illusion of believing and anything and everything is maya, then GOd too is a part of it.

Hence this is a bullshit attempt to digg deep this rabbit hole. as in another talk of his, try attain the peace, lets see what follows later.

As we human crooks, always think and want one step or more above us. and im sure we will be wanting more, and there is more to gather further. and hence lets not get greedy quickly enough. and lets enjoy! have fun! take a chil pil😛

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